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		<title>By: nate_s</title>
		<link>http://www.CoffeeNate.com/how-to-read-coffee-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-10962</link>
		<dc:creator>nate_s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for that insight Banks!  I agree that you can do better independently than Fair Trade, but it is up to the consumer to investigate the company, and that is not very easy to do.  If a company, such as your own, with a long tradition of championing sustainable coffee, enters into a direct trade relationship outside of Fairtrade, then I think it is easier to buy into it as a consumer.  I think it&#039;s important for the roaster to be transparent.  I like what Green Mountain does for example.  For each coffee they sell, there are details about the origins of the coffee, and the COOP/farm it was purchased from.  It gives the consumer some insight into where this product originated from, and makes their purchasing transparent.  Thank you again for your comments! :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that insight Banks!  I agree that you can do better independently than Fair Trade, but it is up to the consumer to investigate the company, and that is not very easy to do.  If a company, such as your own, with a long tradition of championing sustainable coffee, enters into a direct trade relationship outside of Fairtrade, then I think it is easier to buy into it as a consumer.  I think it&#039;s important for the roaster to be transparent.  I like what Green Mountain does for example.  For each coffee they sell, there are details about the origins of the coffee, and the COOP/farm it was purchased from.  It gives the consumer some insight into where this product originated from, and makes their purchasing transparent.  Thank you again for your comments! <img src='http://www.CoffeeNate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: nate_s</title>
		<link>http://www.CoffeeNate.com/how-to-read-coffee-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-19916</link>
		<dc:creator>nate_s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for that insight Banks!  I agree that you can do better independently than Fair Trade, but it is up to the consumer to investigate the company, and that is not very easy to do.  If a company, such as your own, with a long tradition of championing sustainable coffee, enters into a direct trade relationship outside of Fairtrade, then I think it is easier to buy into it as a consumer.  I think it&#039;s important for the roaster to be transparent.  I like what Green Mountain does for example.  For each coffee they sell, there are details about the origins of the coffee, and the COOP/farm it was purchased from.  It gives the consumer some insight into where this product originated from, and makes their purchasing transparent.  Thank you again for your comments! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that insight Banks!  I agree that you can do better independently than Fair Trade, but it is up to the consumer to investigate the company, and that is not very easy to do.  If a company, such as your own, with a long tradition of championing sustainable coffee, enters into a direct trade relationship outside of Fairtrade, then I think it is easier to buy into it as a consumer.  I think it&#039;s important for the roaster to be transparent.  I like what Green Mountain does for example.  For each coffee they sell, there are details about the origins of the coffee, and the COOP/farm it was purchased from.  It gives the consumer some insight into where this product originated from, and makes their purchasing transparent.  Thank you again for your comments! <img src='http://www.CoffeeNate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Banks Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.CoffeeNate.com/how-to-read-coffee-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-10937</link>
		<dc:creator>Banks Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nate, 
 
I agree with most of what you are saying about direct trade, however I do think that this is the way to go.  I&#039;m the Director of Coffee for Salt Spring Coffee, as you may know we were one of the first 100% Organic and Fair Trade coffee roasters in BC.  We have been working closely with co-op&#039;s in Peru and Nicaragua for years now, and as of this year we are dropping the Transfair logo on these coffees and going with our own Direct Trade logo.  All of the coffee that we buy from these regions will be bought directly not just some.  Here is the list of rules that we hold ourselves to: 
 
-We pay a minimum of 25% above the fair trade base price. 
-We establish long-term commitments (3-5 years), providing security to farmers and co-op&#039;s 
-Transactions and contracts are fully transparent to all buyers and sellers. 
-We visit each of our coffee growing communities at least once every three years. ( We visit Nicaragua and Peru every year, we put at least every three because we hope to expand this program to Sumatra and Ethiopia in the near future and they are much harder to get to.) 
-We work with these co-ops to raise the quality of their coffees year after year. 
-We purchase only from certified organic farms and co-op. 
 
I&#039;m sure that there are roasters that are using Direct Trade as a way to make more money, but there are also many roasters like us that really care and want something better for the farming communities.  I would advise consumers to do a little research on the roasters direct trade programs and ask questions.   
 
Thank you, very cool website. 
 
Banks </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nate, </p>
<p>I agree with most of what you are saying about direct trade, however I do think that this is the way to go.  I&#039;m the Director of Coffee for Salt Spring Coffee, as you may know we were one of the first 100% Organic and Fair Trade coffee roasters in BC.  We have been working closely with co-op&#039;s in Peru and Nicaragua for years now, and as of this year we are dropping the Transfair logo on these coffees and going with our own Direct Trade logo.  All of the coffee that we buy from these regions will be bought directly not just some.  Here is the list of rules that we hold ourselves to: </p>
<p>-We pay a minimum of 25% above the fair trade base price.<br />
-We establish long-term commitments (3-5 years), providing security to farmers and co-op&#039;s<br />
-Transactions and contracts are fully transparent to all buyers and sellers.<br />
-We visit each of our coffee growing communities at least once every three years. ( We visit Nicaragua and Peru every year, we put at least every three because we hope to expand this program to Sumatra and Ethiopia in the near future and they are much harder to get to.)<br />
-We work with these co-ops to raise the quality of their coffees year after year.<br />
-We purchase only from certified organic farms and co-op. </p>
<p>I&#039;m sure that there are roasters that are using Direct Trade as a way to make more money, but there are also many roasters like us that really care and want something better for the farming communities.  I would advise consumers to do a little research on the roasters direct trade programs and ask questions.   </p>
<p>Thank you, very cool website. </p>
<p>Banks</p>
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		<title>By: Banks Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.CoffeeNate.com/how-to-read-coffee-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-19905</link>
		<dc:creator>Banks Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nate,    I agree with most of what you are saying about direct trade, however I do think that this is the way to go.  I&#039;m the Director of Coffee for Salt Spring Coffee, as you may know we were one of the first 100% Organic and Fair Trade coffee roasters in BC.  We have been working closely with co-op&#039;s in Peru and Nicaragua for years now, and as of this year we are dropping the Transfair logo on these coffees and going with our own Direct Trade logo.  All of the coffee that we buy from these regions will be bought directly not just some.  Here is the list of rules that we hold ourselves to:    -We pay a minimum of 25% above the fair trade base price.  -We establish long-term commitments (3-5 years), providing security to farmers and co-op&#039;s  -Transactions and contracts are fully transparent to all buyers and sellers.  -We visit each of our coffee growing communities at least once every three years. ( We visit Nicaragua and Peru every year, we put at least every three because we hope to expand this program to Sumatra and Ethiopia in the near future and they are much harder to get to.)  -We work with these co-ops to raise the quality of their coffees year after year.  -We purchase only from certified organic farms and co-op.    I&#039;m sure that there are roasters that are using Direct Trade as a way to make more money, but there are also many roasters like us that really care and want something better for the farming communities.  I would advise consumers to do a little research on the roasters direct trade programs and ask questions.      Thank you, very cool website.    Banks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nate,    I agree with most of what you are saying about direct trade, however I do think that this is the way to go.  I&#039;m the Director of Coffee for Salt Spring Coffee, as you may know we were one of the first 100% Organic and Fair Trade coffee roasters in BC.  We have been working closely with co-op&#039;s in Peru and Nicaragua for years now, and as of this year we are dropping the Transfair logo on these coffees and going with our own Direct Trade logo.  All of the coffee that we buy from these regions will be bought directly not just some.  Here is the list of rules that we hold ourselves to:    -We pay a minimum of 25% above the fair trade base price.  -We establish long-term commitments (3-5 years), providing security to farmers and co-op&#039;s  -Transactions and contracts are fully transparent to all buyers and sellers.  -We visit each of our coffee growing communities at least once every three years. ( We visit Nicaragua and Peru every year, we put at least every three because we hope to expand this program to Sumatra and Ethiopia in the near future and they are much harder to get to.)  -We work with these co-ops to raise the quality of their coffees year after year.  -We purchase only from certified organic farms and co-op.    I&#039;m sure that there are roasters that are using Direct Trade as a way to make more money, but there are also many roasters like us that really care and want something better for the farming communities.  I would advise consumers to do a little research on the roasters direct trade programs and ask questions.      Thank you, very cool website.    Banks</p>
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		<title>By: nate_s</title>
		<link>http://www.CoffeeNate.com/how-to-read-coffee-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-8216</link>
		<dc:creator>nate_s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having said that, I am interested in learning more about Birds &amp; Beans coffees!  I sent them a message...waiting for a response regarding a review. :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having said that, I am interested in learning more about Birds &amp; Beans coffees!  I sent them a message&#8230;waiting for a response regarding a review. <img src='http://www.CoffeeNate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: nate_s</title>
		<link>http://www.CoffeeNate.com/how-to-read-coffee-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-19915</link>
		<dc:creator>nate_s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having said that, I am interested in learning more about Birds &amp; Beans coffees!  I sent them a message...waiting for a response regarding a review. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having said that, I am interested in learning more about Birds &amp;amp; Beans coffees!  I sent them a message&#8230;waiting for a response regarding a review. <img src='http://www.CoffeeNate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: nate_s</title>
		<link>http://www.CoffeeNate.com/how-to-read-coffee-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-8205</link>
		<dc:creator>nate_s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your post and your passion.  I don&#039;t think you can say that Bird Friendly is the &quot;best&quot;  If you only have to meet certification once every three years, then you could do whatever you want for the following 3 year period following certification.  There isn&#039;t enough being given to the coffee growing farmers&#039; communities either.  There are great aspects of each certification, I think a unified label is the best bet to promote awareness, defray expenses, and ensure that consumers can easily identify with the label.   
 
PS 
Please only include your link in your screen name, not in the post.  Also, I appreciate the referral to the site, but don&#039;t make it sound like your are speaking from a consumer&#039;s point of view when you clearly have a professional connection to them.  Thank you. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your post and your passion.  I don&#039;t think you can say that Bird Friendly is the &quot;best&quot;  If you only have to meet certification once every three years, then you could do whatever you want for the following 3 year period following certification.  There isn&#039;t enough being given to the coffee growing farmers&#039; communities either.  There are great aspects of each certification, I think a unified label is the best bet to promote awareness, defray expenses, and ensure that consumers can easily identify with the label.   </p>
<p>PS<br />
Please only include your link in your screen name, not in the post.  Also, I appreciate the referral to the site, but don&#039;t make it sound like your are speaking from a consumer&#039;s point of view when you clearly have a professional connection to them.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: nate_s</title>
		<link>http://www.CoffeeNate.com/how-to-read-coffee-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-19914</link>
		<dc:creator>nate_s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your post and your passion.  I don&#039;t think you can say that Bird Friendly is the &quot;best&quot;  If you only have to meet certification once every three years, then you could do whatever you want for the following 3 year period following certification.  There isn&#039;t enough being given to the coffee growing farmers&#039; communities either.  There are great aspects of each certification, I think a unified label is the best bet to promote awareness, defray expenses, and ensure that consumers can easily identify with the label.      PS  Please only include your link in your screen name, not in the post.  Also, I appreciate the referral to the site, but don&#039;t make it sound like your are speaking from a consumer&#039;s point of view when you clearly have a professional connection to them.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your post and your passion.  I don&#039;t think you can say that Bird Friendly is the &amp;quot;best&amp;quot;  If you only have to meet certification once every three years, then you could do whatever you want for the following 3 year period following certification.  There isn&#039;t enough being given to the coffee growing farmers&#039; communities either.  There are great aspects of each certification, I think a unified label is the best bet to promote awareness, defray expenses, and ensure that consumers can easily identify with the label.      PS  Please only include your link in your screen name, not in the post.  Also, I appreciate the referral to the site, but don&#039;t make it sound like your are speaking from a consumer&#039;s point of view when you clearly have a professional connection to them.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: @BirdsandBeansNY</title>
		<link>http://www.CoffeeNate.com/how-to-read-coffee-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-8187</link>
		<dc:creator>@BirdsandBeansNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A unified certification sounds like a great idea, if you could coordinate all the agencies involved. The Bird Friendly&#174; certification by the Smithsonian is the best bet, in terms of knowing what kind of coffee beans you are actually getting:&#160;100% USDA organic, and 100% shade grown. They inspect the farms in person before providing certification. Some coffees with shadegrown labels only have 30% shadegrown beans in them. I&#039;ve found Birds and Beans coffee here in New York, in a number of shops in the Hudson Valley. Lately I&#039;ve been ordering online at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.birdsandbeans.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.birdsandbeans.com&lt;/a&gt; with a bunch of friends, so shipping comes down to about 75 cents per bag. You don&#039;t have to spend big bucks to get multiple certified coffee! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A unified certification sounds like a great idea, if you could coordinate all the agencies involved. The Bird Friendly&reg; certification by the Smithsonian is the best bet, in terms of knowing what kind of coffee beans you are actually getting:&nbsp;100% USDA organic, and 100% shade grown. They inspect the farms in person before providing certification. Some coffees with shadegrown labels only have 30% shadegrown beans in them. I&#039;ve found Birds and Beans coffee here in New York, in a number of shops in the Hudson Valley. Lately I&#039;ve been ordering online at <a href="http://www.birdsandbeans.com" target="_blank">http://www.birdsandbeans.com</a> with a bunch of friends, so shipping comes down to about 75 cents per bag. You don&#039;t have to spend big bucks to get multiple certified coffee!</p>
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		<title>By: @BirdsandBeansNY</title>
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		<dc:creator>@BirdsandBeansNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A unified certification sounds like a great idea, if you could coordinate all the agencies involved. The Bird Friendly® certification by the Smithsonian is the best bet, in terms of knowing what kind of coffee beans you are actually getting: 100% USDA organic, and 100% shade grown. They inspect the farms in person before providing certification. Some coffees with shadegrown labels only have 30% shadegrown beans in them. I&#039;ve found Birds and Beans coffee here in New York, in a number of shops in the Hudson Valley. Lately I&#039;ve been ordering at birdsandbeans with a bunch of friends, so shipping comes down to about 75 cents per bag. You don&#039;t have to spend big bucks to get multiple certified coffee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A unified certification sounds like a great idea, if you could coordinate all the agencies involved. The Bird Friendly® certification by the Smithsonian is the best bet, in terms of knowing what kind of coffee beans you are actually getting: 100% USDA organic, and 100% shade grown. They inspect the farms in person before providing certification. Some coffees with shadegrown labels only have 30% shadegrown beans in them. I&#8217;ve found Birds and Beans coffee here in New York, in a number of shops in the Hudson Valley. Lately I&#8217;ve been ordering at birdsandbeans with a bunch of friends, so shipping comes down to about 75 cents per bag. You don&#8217;t have to spend big bucks to get multiple certified coffee!</p>
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